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« on: October 23, 2010, 02:37:55 AM »

I'm wondering what DI units people out there are using? (With particular interest in recording Sadowsky basses)
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 03:36:51 AM »

Hi from Italy,
I'm using an Avalon U5 and I'm very happy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 04:16:24 AM »

hi Roberto! Have you had any experience with tube DI units. I'm just wondering what the merits/drawbacks are of tube vs ss. And may I ask what style of music you play.

- Rhys
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 05:11:27 PM »

Hi Rhys,

Only drawback to any tube unit is that tubes are not as durable as a solid-state circuit and, if you want to nit-pick, a well designed solid-state circuit will always produce less noise than tubes. Just try a few and pick one you like the sound of. Take specs away and use your ears!

Personally, I like to take a DI from my Warwick Hellborg preamp. I also have a Radial Bassbone which also sounds fantastic (and works for Will Lee too, apparently).
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 11:11:03 PM »

Avalon U5 works for a lot of bass players. Tal Wilkenfeld has used one live as well for her Sadowsky J. I find it to be well worth the investment. It's a pure "class A" unit.
 http://www.avalondesign.com/pdfs/hr_avalonLit_U5.pdf
 http://www.avalondesign.com/review25.html -  "Bass Player" mag review
Now if you're talkin' interface recording to a Mac computer, the Apogee Duet is a good choice, sounds GREAT for playback of any music via your computer & takes headphones & powered near field monitors to another level. Another good investment if you use a Mac. Maybe someone else can take it from here. Not familiar with it's further applications.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 08:21:55 AM »

I have used a TAB Funkenwerk V71DI and an A Designs RedDi to record my MV5, PJ5 and M5-24 so far.

The sound I liked best was the RedDi!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 01:08:31 PM »

I have been using Radial J 48 and the sound is great

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 08:01:30 PM »

thanks heaps to all of you for your responses! I guess the first question is tube vs ss, tho even that seems to be a case by case issue. There seem to be dozens of really good units out there, RedDI, U5, evil twin etc. I guess I'm going to have to just try a bunch of them. Any more advice is certainly welcome though!
Again, thanks to you all!
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 08:19:10 PM »

thanks heaps to all of you for your responses! I guess the first question is tube vs ss, tho even that seems to be a case by case issue. There seem to be dozens of really good units out there, RedDI, U5, evil twin etc. I guess I'm going to have to just try a bunch of them. Any more advice is certainly welcome though!
Again, thanks to you all!
- Rhys

IMO every DI suggested here is a winner.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 04:22:19 PM »

No, I haven't any experience with tube DIs.
With my PBass with Lindy Fralin passive pups the U5 seems to do a very fine job, with a sound more on the clean side but not sterile.
I think that the tube units are more focused on a given sound, mainly vintagey, but less versatile.
I was using some tube mic pres and the result was the above mentioned: fat, so for certain voices this could be bad, tha same is for bass.
I play mainly soul/fusion/jazz but I'm not a pro, so take my words with the usual grain of salt.   
I'm using also a Millennia TD1 that is a very good unit too, but it is a mic pre/DI so the price tag is higher. An interesting feature of the TD1 is the twin topology tube/ss in a single unit. TD1 has so much Ins and Outs and the Reamp feature too. Millennia sound quality is excellent.
Hope this helps, by the way sorry for my bad english.
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hi Roberto! Have you had any experience with tube DI units. I'm just wondering what the merits/drawbacks are of tube vs ss. And may I ask what style of music you play.

- Rhys
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 05:33:23 PM »

Roberto,
  Well said.
RMCat,
  The Avalon U5 is a real tone purifier IMO. There is something very special about "class A" for bass. Brings out the best, inc. the bass frequencies. ( I have talked to pro audio people about the Avalon tube stuff & THEIR feedback from studio experiences is that they tend to wander a bit in sonic character. This APPARENTLY is due to fluctuation in tube stability both during & after warmup in their circuits. (SOME also feel that the tube saturation character is a tad over the top on these units). Hey - studios are loaded w/ Avalon tubes so judge for yourself. This is VERY pricey stuff so make sure you listen well. Another SUPERB "vintage" sound is the "Great River" ME-1NV. The Millennia TD-1 is a no brainer! That's as good as it gets IMO.
Maybe you should qualify your DI interest with a specific price range or this could get crazy Grin
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 06:20:11 PM »

Forget price. I'm a professional muso and have a small studio too. I figure I can justify a few grand on the right unit that will serve me well for years. Plus I'm recording my first original album soon, and of course I want it to sound the best I can. I found a dealer in Australia and he's given me very reasonable prices for the reddi, u5 and the td-1. At this stage I'm leaning to the u5, but maybe I should seriously look at the td-1. And again, thanks to all for their input, it's really cutting down my research/learning time
- Rhys

p.s. - please don't apologise for your english, Roberto, it's fine, and your comments are very helpful
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 05:29:15 PM »

HI

I have a standing gig at a church and there I use a Radial JDI.  When Ive recorded, Ive used some nice Demeter units

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 11:43:29 PM »

after seriously considering every DI unit suggested here (plus a few more) I've decided to go with the Millenia td-1. I figure it offers both tube and ss in the one unit and has great reviews. I seriously can't thank you all enough for your advice. I now feel more confident that I'm getting the right unit. And a big thanks to Sadowsky guitars for giving us this forum to help share ideas and knowledge. Rock on!

- Rhys
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2010, 12:19:05 AM »


WOW !!! Congratulations.
I know we all would love to hear a Sadowsky bass played through that puppy. May be the only chance we get.
If you can possibly post a link to a sound clip demonstrating it's options when you have tested it, that would be great. Thanks in advance.
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