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16  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: December 02, 2011, 11:45:27 PM
Doing a bunch of home recording lately & using my new strobe tuner to good advantage. Have realized that the easiest way to avoid difficulty in setting up intonation is to turn the pan to the front pickup ONLY. Trying to intone Or tune accurately with both pups picking up a signal, (Pan @ detent), is something I've had problems with. Jus' sayin'.
Not sure how players using other types of tuners find that little tidbit but sure saved myself a lot of frustration.
B.
17  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Back of the neck finish on: October 23, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
I'm in the same boat as Fran here I think - I'd love to do this, and since asking Roger about it some time ago I have had the Tru Oil sat here unopened ever since.

I've been pretty bad with buying and selling instruments the last couple of years but I've come to realise that my Sadowsky is very special and I know without doubt I'd regret ever selling it. So if it's here to stay I guess it can be tweaked a little eh Smiley

The thing is, my neck finish seems to have stopped bothering me and hasn't turned sticky for a long while now so although I'd love the feel of a worn neck like my previous Fender CS Pino (best finish I've felt) I'm still somewhat scared to have a go at this...

If you're happy with the feel of the neck & there's no drag, then there's not much point in the operation.
BUT - if you are confident in your ability to do it well & decide to take off the nitro I would strongly suggest that you refrain from applying the oil treatment until you give the bare maple a fair chance. I can't stress that enough. Just follow my process & you'll be fine. ***Make sure you take off ALL the finish that you're working on down to the raw maple. This isn't something you want to do part way!!! Be sure to get it ALL.
AND - be very diligent in avoiding contact of the nitro dust, AND your uncleaned hands with the uncovered bass. Clean any dust from the coverings & maskings before removing them. It's not rocket science - just be careful. That stuff is deadly tacky.  AFTER you have disposed of the masking & coverings, have lacquer thinner to clean your hands before touching the uncovered bass. DON"T bring the solvent (lacquer thinner) anywhere near the bass. As a FINAL step, I also cleaned the back of the neck, the exposed part of the headstock & heel with rubbing alcohol on a CLEAN rag, to take off any possible trace of powder before I handled the bass. That won't harm the nitro on the remaining parts of the neck. *Bare fingers give a necessary feel of the surface while working with sandpaper on the bare maple but I suppose you could try latex gloves while there is still nitro powder in play. Just work with awareness of what's happening. It is a very exhilarating & satisfying undertaking.  
B.
Edit: One other thing - After cleaning my hands well of the nitro powder and scrubbing them with detergent soap to remove the solvent, my fingers felt somewhat tacky for awhile until they " toughened up" again. So give them a chance to overcome what you just put them through before judging your work.  Grin
18  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: October 21, 2011, 05:25:50 AM
Using my new strobe tuner I have noticed that string intonation requires some adjustment after a couple days on a set of new strings. Is that normal or am I missing something in my method? I even noticed that I get a different reading if I use only fretted notes & harmonics as opposed to open strings in the process. The touch on the neck does seem to have a bearing. 5th / 17th fretted notes seems to be the most reliable.  Thanks in advance.
B.


Hi Blair,

Welcome to my world!

Roger

Well it IS fun knocking on that door anyway.  Grin
Taking care of business is a joy with such a superb instrument Roger. That's where the inspiration is.

Blair.
19  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: October 21, 2011, 05:17:26 AM
Using my new strobe tuner I have noticed that string intonation requires some adjustment after a couple days on a set of new strings. Is that normal or am I missing something in my method? I even noticed that I get a different reading if I use only fretted notes & harmonics as opposed to open strings in the process. The touch on the neck does seem to have a bearing. 5th / 17th fretted notes seems to be the most reliable.  Thanks in advance.
B.


Hey Blair,

     I understand the physics behind the proccess and how I have tu turn the  screws but every time I intonate an instrument I always need to finetune (pun intended Grin) by trial and error and I won't stop until I see that the fretted notes play in tune all over the neck (1,3,5,7,12,15,17 frets), I can get to do this on all the Sadowsky basses I have worked on, but it's been impossible with many other basses.

I know exactly what you're referring to Fran. There are many new really good tuners on the market that are all very capable. But this strobe is so sensitive that once I manage to get each string perfect, all the strings sync up very well because the frets are positioned to perfection. The nice thing about it is that I can watch the strobe as it slows down to a standstill & the degree of "sharp" or "flat" is based on the speed of the strobe movement not on an LED that is on or off. This is really a new experience for me. The only way to get the bass intoned is to do it while it's on the strap in playing position because if it's lying down the weight of the neck throws out accuracy that will be had while in playing position. SERIOUSLY, even the pressure of turning the tuner key is relevant in that you have to let go of the thing to see how the strobe reads. That's why I find using 5th & 17th fretted notes work best for me so the reading of the strobe will be accurate as if while playing the bass in a fretting position. The open string & 12th fretted note is more difficult for me to do. Once the string is intoned an octave apart at fretted position, I check against 12th fret harmonic & 12th fretted note. Sometimes a minor tweak is needed. I have yet to get the strobe dead still on every position. I really think that's only possible in "Roger's World". LOL  
I was told by a tech here that it's a lifelong mission to accomplish "absolute perfect" tuning or build a device that will do it. Can't be done apparently. The Peterson strobe tuner has "sweetened tunings" that may be used for various instruments but I think the standard non sweetened tuning is great for bass. Maybe Roger has an opinion about that.

My method:
-- I tune the string at the 5th fretted note.
-- Then I check the strobe reading at the 17th fretted note.
   If the 17th fretted note is sharp, I lengthen the string by pulling the bridge saddle back ( turn the  screwdriver clockwise. NOTE: Each time a saddle adjustment is made the string must be re-tuned at the 5th fret again before checking the intonation.
-- The same process can be used by first tuning the 12th fret harmonic & checking the fretted note there. If the FRETTED note is sharp, pull the saddle back.(& re-check the harmonic as well as the fretted note)
 
B.
 
 
20  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: October 19, 2011, 04:07:13 PM
Using my new strobe tuner I have noticed that string intonation requires some adjustment after a couple days on a set of new strings. Is that normal or am I missing something in my method? I even noticed that I get a different reading if I use only fretted notes & harmonics as opposed to open strings in the process. The touch on the neck does seem to have a bearing. 5th / 17th fretted notes seems to be the most reliable.  Thanks in advance.
B.
21  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: BUILD - NYC Vintage P-Bass w/ PJ pups on: October 17, 2011, 04:22:49 PM
Sound clip overdubs with a new set of Sadowsky SBF45 flats.
"Things Have Changed" -  http://www.box.net/shared/5ug35sxc5p8ss85no7gv  
Gord L. (folder updated) - http://www.box.net/shared/m7igr01uq6u3i8j2oeej
B.
22  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Back of the neck finish on: October 17, 2011, 02:08:24 AM
I'm curious if anyone has contemplated ordering a bare maple neck on a build - nitro on headstock & heel.( & fretboard if maple). I haven't heard any opinions about that. As a point of interest, any "greying" (patina) that develops over time, (I'm talking in terms of many years), can be removed with a very light sanding & "whiskering" it again as I've described previously. This is a very simple process since there's no finish to remove. Just a handy fact to know for the possible new owner in a resale situation.  I really like the look of the patina on the bare maple. It's very minimal (hardly noticeable on mine as per the photos above), if you keep the neck damp wiped now & again, as you would do anyway on nitro. I really hope that Roger would build one for stock so someone else beside myself could try it. I hate to see it overlooked in the overview of builds. It's a revelation IMO. OH - & did I mention SLIPPERY!  Grin
B.
23  General Category / Sadowsky Forum / Re: Location -(please) on: October 04, 2011, 03:42:24 PM
Time for the change of season bump :



Nice to see the great photos of your place in the world people! Keep'em comin'.
B.
24  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Battery life on: October 04, 2011, 02:31:00 PM
I've noticed that sometimes other types of batteries die quickly if it's past their expiry date when they're installed. Worth a check if you buy batteries on sale.
B.
25  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: September 13, 2011, 05:20:04 AM
Well I took care of business today & got myself a strobe tuner. Man - what a revelation THAT was! (thanks Roger for the mention)
Couldn't pass up a great deal on a Peterson "Stomp Classic". I do so much home recording & reference pitch adjustment on the overdubs that this unit was a no brainer. I can change from "A-440" concert pitch up or down by 1hz increments. "A-448" is about the highest I need at present. It allows me to match 1 note on the G string to a note or chord on a recording, adjust the tuner strobe to that new note's pitch & then tune the bass to the new tuner setting. That was a huge problem before now. I can even preset a few of the mods. Lots of free software downloads for it also. Many handy features.

NOW for the kicker! I spent a few hours teaching myself how to intonate my bass using the instructions in the manual & after some experimentation I managed to accomplish what I consider perfect intonation of a well broken in set of Chromes (D'Addario flats) !!! With my old tuner it was impossible. I actually didn't believe I would notice the improvement all that much, but WOW! This thing is so sensitive that I learned intonation without having to use any open string as part of the sync.  This bass just keeps gettin' better every day.  Cool
Next thing you know, I'll be fretting my Sad' SBF45 flats. I gotta remember to never say never.  Undecided
Thanks again guys.  
B.
26  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: September 12, 2011, 05:19:24 AM
Thanks so much for the replies people.
I have read so many different approaches to intonation that I suspected it was time to get it right.
I use a little Korg GA-30 tuner which is pretty good but not of the calibre of a decent strobe tuner as you said Roger. Is there one that's "affordable"  Wink. I have to be practical here.  The intonation was perfect on the build when it arrived, but as with any string, adjustment can be required from time to time. With recording, this is no small problem. It's not just the tuner but the procedure that I was concerned about. Thanks again.
B.
 
 

Blair, it's almost impossible to do with that tuner, I got a Korg 'PitchBlack+', probably overkill for you, but very nice for intonation.

Anyway, I remember that when I tried the Chromes they were a real pain to intonate, much harder than the Sadowsky flats.



Thanks Fran. I watched a demo on YouTube of the basic pitchblack (not the +) & it looks decent.
Here's a strobe that has my interest also. A....http://www.long-mcquade.com/products/4127/Band/Metronomes_Tuners_Stands/Planet_Waves/Tru-Strobe_Tuner.htm....B....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exvUY4h0PsM&feature=relmfu
The pedal version has a calibration that allows for adjusting to match modified pitch on a recording(very useful for me w/overdubs). The basic model may also,not sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdb-NH-JE88&NR=1
As far as overkill, a Sadowsky bass justifies a tuner that WORKS I think. LOL.
Would you believe I still have the pitch pipe that I used in high school to tune my '63 Strat & NO I don't still use it. Grin   I remember we tuned down a half step for Beatles songs 'cause we couldn't reach the high notes. Just used "beat tuning" w/harmonics from string to string.
B.
Edit: I agree about the Chromes but what can I do, they're home for me. If the Sad's had the same tension & gauge, I'd change in a heartbeat. The feel & playability of my preference w/flats trumps everything else. I can live w/the tone I've got now but can't live w/ lighter tension or gauge.
27  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: What Does a Sadowsky Bass Sound Like? on: September 12, 2011, 01:32:28 AM
5-24 NYC
Luis Gustavo Garcia
session bassist in Brazil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHvzz7qb7E

I wonder if this guy enjoys his work.  Grin
Unreal!
B.
Edit: I just can't stop watching this clip. It's obvious that it's all about what's in his mind that comes through his fingers! Draws me right in.
28  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: BUILD - NYC Vintage P-Bass w/ PJ pups on: September 12, 2011, 01:13:49 AM
I got the Zoom Q3HD and it has a Line In where you can connect a stereo signal from your recording setup and use that audio with the movie.

Done! Gonna go get some lessons at the Apple Store soon. I'm kinda busy w/ G.L. at the moment Fran.  Wink

Here's a new folder of some overdubs of some of my favorite Gordo songs re-done w/ the Sad' build. "Soul Food" for me. I'll add to it from time to time.
B.
http://www.box.net/shared/m7igr01uq6u3i8j2oeej
29  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Back of the neck finish on: September 12, 2011, 12:49:20 AM
I wanted to try showing the slight darkening of the bare maple over the past few months which resulted from playing & damp wipe with a micro fibre cloth. It's difficult to represent well but here's an attempt. You couldn't pay me enough to put any oil on this.  Grin
B.



This one shows the slight lustre on the wood to demonstrate the smoothness & hard surface of the bare maple.
30  Sadowsky Basses / Sadowsky Basses / Re: Intonation on: September 11, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
Thanks so much for the replies people.
I have read so many different approaches to intonation that I suspected it was time to get it right.
I use a little Korg GA-30 tuner which is pretty good but not of the calibre of a decent strobe tuner as you said Roger. Is there one that's "affordable"  Wink. I have to be practical here.  The intonation was perfect on the build when it arrived, but as with any string, adjustment can be required from time to time. With recording, this is no small problem. It's not just the tuner but the procedure that I was concerned about. Thanks again.
B.
 
 
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